qing empire

  1. Britain sacks Beijing in Second Opium War

    Initially the Qing Dynasty only accepted silver in trade. To bypass this the British East India Company smuggled Opium into China. In 1839 China burned the company's Opium store house. The Company retailed with the world' first Iron steam-warship Nemesis. It captured Nanjing in 1842 and...
  2. Taiping industrialize China like Stalin did Soviet Union

    Stalin industrialized the Soviet union by collectivizing agriculture and exporting it's output to gain the capital need to hire the experts and buy the equipment required for industrialization. Taiping rebellion also abolished private property and planned to adopt modern technology like...
  3. The Qing dynasty legalizes opium?

    In the years leading up to the First Opium War, a debate occurred within the Qing government over how the opium problem should be addressed, with one side arguing for its legalization (so that the state could tax it and thus give some much needed cash to the treasury) and another for harsher...
  4. What if the Qing Empire was smaller?

    The Qing dynasty held the largest empire of any Chinese dynasty, and not even modern China has equaled its territorial extent. However, it didn't necessarily have to be that way. For a significant amount of its lifetime, the Qing empire consisted of Greater Manchuria, China Proper, Taiwan and...
  5. AHC: A significantly smaller Qing empire

    Nothing says the territory controlled by the Qing dynasty necessarily had to get extensive as it did, at least AFAIK. Your challenge is to have the Qing empire consist solely of Manchuria, China proper, and Inner Mongolia.
  6. Alliance between China, Germany, and the US

    With a pod in 1820, how can we get an alliance between the United states, a Prussian Germany, and a modernized Qing? What smaller allies would also be part of this pact, how would the coming great war between powers go, and what will the world look like after?
  7. A Succesful Boxer Rebelion: Could the colossus shake itself awake?

    I was somewhat unsure on whether to put this on pre-1900 or post-1900 forum, but since the rebellion only started in the tail end of 1899 and the actual escalation into a crisis only began on 1900 I figured I should place it here. Even if the PoD would probably end up on the 19th century. Or...
  8. AHC: Qing Empire reforms into a constitutional monarchy

    So I've been thinking of creating a timeline where the Qing dynasty reforms into a constitutional monarchy, what are some ways on how this could happen?
  9. GauchoBadger

    WI: Ili Crisis (1880) escalates into war between Qing China and Russia?

    IOTL, after the defeat of the Dungan Revolt in the late 1860's, Qing China was in the process of reoccupying Xinjiang. One surprisingly stretched incident (lasting 9 to 10 years) was the Russian occupation of the Ili River region in western Xinjiang, serving to secure Russia's foothold in...
  10. Best case scenario for 19th century Qing Dynasty

    Like the title says, what would be the best case scenario for the Qing Dynasty in the 19th century? China under the times of Early Qing were at the most powerful at their zenith under Kangxi, Yongzheng and Qianlong. After Qianlong, Qing China is no longer the great empire it once used to be and...
  11. WI Yeung Ku-Wan Lives

    What if the 1901 assassination attempt on Sun Yat-Sen's partner in Hong Kong had failed? If it's plausible, assume he lives at least another dozen years. Possibility - could the attempted 1903 Guangzhou Uprising, which Yeung’s successor Tse Tsan-Tai had tried to put together circa 1902, have...
  12. AHC: Better 19th Century for Qing

    With no PoDs prior to 1834, how could the humiliations, rebellions, and demographic catastrophes that hit China in the middle part of the 19th century he averted - especially the Taiping Rebellion, or any calamity of its level? And before anyone suggests the seemingly easy answer:
  13. Incanian

    Does anyone know any really good Qing books?

    I wanted to enhance my knowledge of the Qing Dynasty, and I looked up some books, but I wanted to make sure I got the best possible Book about the Qing history from 1644, to 1911. I know AH.com might not be the most appropriate place, considering people know a good amount of Qing history here...
  14. Incanian

    AMERICAN REVOLUTION LOST!!!! What happens to China?

    So after thinking about the American war for independence, I was wondering about the effects a stronger presence in North America would have on the Qing empire. Seeing as North America is a higher priority, would the British have a higher stand on the Chinese? What would be the effects of a...
  15. Incanian

    Southern victory Effets in China

    So I was reading Harry turtledoves Great war Southern victory series, I got interested in the World of the Southern victory instead of being isolated in America. So I got interested more about the Far East in a Southern Victory. First I was interested in China, who still is under the rule of the...
  16. Incanian

    Who were all the "Sick men" of the world?

    So the title of Sick man is used to describe a nation who declined or is declining slowly. The title has been used to describe the Ottoman empire in the 1850s. So since we have the Ottoman empire as a Sick man, how many of these Sick men where there? Mainly Sick men from each continent. I only...
  17. Incanian

    Qing-Russian Alliance and Qing intervention in Russo-Japanese war

    So we know the Qing empire was the "Sick man of Asia" and Japan took the title of the Asian Power after the First Sino-Japanese war. Japan would later win the Russo-Japanese war in 1905, defeating a major western power. Now One thing when learning about the Russo-Japanese war, was why didn't...
  18. AHC: Failed Tonkin Campaign (1883-86)

    With no PoDs prior to 1882, how can French power in Southeast Asia be as curbed as possible, preferably by means of military and/or diplomatic defeats? And, of course, what would be the effects? For example, if France is defeated in the Sino-French War, could that lead either France or Russia...
  19. GauchoBadger

    AHC: late Qing dynasty overthrown by another dynasty

    Is there any way that, with a PoD after the Hundred Days' Reform, an equivalent of the Xinhai Revolution could have led not to a republic, but to a (preferably Han) constitutional monarchy? And yes, i'm aware of Yuan Shikai's brief restoration, but the objective here is to come up with a Han...
  20. What if the constitutional reforms of the Qing empire had been completed?

    What would have happened if the Xinhai revolution never happened and the Qing empire had completed the reforms to transform China into a constitutional monarchy?
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