Alternate Ideologies

[PecuTheGreat]

Kind of, since in a panarchist system, rather than moving to a place that's more closely aligned to your views, you simply change your political membership, but it's close enough.

Here's what I think. In a world with sea levels 2 km above, you'll have mountainous plateaus and mountainous Islands as the dominant land form rather than plains.

States based on lineages and people rather than territory tended to be in mountain areas or islands, so by doing this they becomes the dominant state form and modernity most likely emerges from them.

States that are territorial but also place a great emphacis on people and lineages are the states that developed in areas with low population densities and nomad states. So giving those mountains an ecology that can support complex societies without strict agriculture could also help and mountains themselves favour pastoralism while NorthWest Pacific coast fjords favoured foraging, hunting and fishing to such an extent as to support complex societies.

As for whether such societies can support things like sewage systems and the like. We have to remember that modernity was invented OTL in Europe, in states where tho territorial had a national identity and considered itself to rule over specific nations/peoples. So it is entirely possible that as modernity in OTL was developed among territorial states that just happened to rule over homogenous nations, modernity in this ur world would be created by lineage based states that just so happen to rule over a fairly large continuous territory.


Also, stuff like sewages were developed explicitly from and for territorial states. It is entirely possible that like in OTL were suckaway pit systems are the exception, in this world suckaway pits would dominate and sewage systems would be the exception, occuring in highly developed, fairly homogenous and/or densely populated areas.

 

[PecuTheGreat]

So, here's an idea. Basically, it's an expansion of the Duginite Atlantis-Tartary dichotomy to the world.

Atlantis: The rulers of the world. The Western European cultural sphere and its settler colonies in North America and Australasia. Modern global society is inevitably set up as Atlanto-centric.

Tartary: Those cultures that were subjugated to Atlantean interests, but retained a degree of independence and were able to function as second-rate powers (e.g. Russia, Japan, the Ottomans). Basically the 'Three Easts': Eastern Europe, East Asia, and the Middle East (and North Africa).

Lemuria: Cultures completely subjugated to Atlantis but not eradicated. South and Southeast Asia and Subsaharan Africa.

Mu: Cultures that Atlantis almost completely eradicated. The natives of the Americas and Oceania.

Note that Latin America is conspicuously absent, as I couldn't really fit it into any category. But this could be a bonus, seeing as Latin America (or El Dorado) incorporates cultural features from Atlantis, Lemuria, and Mu, and with a stretch Tartary as well (Brazil has the highest population of Japanese outside of Japan, for instance), making them foredestined to lead the world (or something like that).

I would have assumed Latin America would be Mu?.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

An ideology which recognizes the importance of technological progress in advancing society. It aims to harness technological advancements to enhance human well-being, improve quality of life, and address societal challenges. This involves promoting social cooperation, mutual support, and solidarity within communities.
(Likely, if implemented, to be thus: Human interaction is replaced by sterile digital interfaces, further isolating individuals from one another and fostering a sense of mistrust and paranoia...)

 

[Ophois]

I would have assumed Latin America would be Mu?.

Yes, but Latin American culture is a mix of Native American, African, and European culture, plus it doesn't fit the 'almost totally eradicated by Atlantis' aspects, being closer to Tartary in that department.

 

[Ophois]

Here's two I've been sitting on:

Bionationalism

Unique to North America, bionationalism is a development of bioregionalism, which states that cultures/nations are unique to their bioregions and should remain fixed to them. The United States, Canada, and Mexico are false constructs and should be dismantled into multiple bionational states, in a loose confederacy (really more like a mutual aid pact) stretching from the Arctic to Guatemala. The result of cross-pollination between Cascadian and Quebecois independence movements, the movement has also welcomed factions arguing for an independent Deseret, Texas, New England, Aztlan, Alaska, Appalachia, and other similar states.

Clanarchism, or the Highland System

Fusing the pan-Celtic ecofascism of their Irish benefactors with clan-based corporatism, the United Clans of the Highlands have a unique political structure. Citizenship and belonging to a clan are inseparable, as it is the clan that guarantees rights and lobbies on behalf of its members. Should two clans come into conflict, the dispute is settled via ritualised warfare. The UCH's 'government', such as it is, is more-or-less an association of clans agreeing on certain policies, such as the official religion being Wiccatholicism, strict degrowth policies, aiming to eventually return to a decentralised quasi-medieval state, as well as a nationalist foreign policy, seeing the competing Republic of Scotland as too English. The Highlands are probably one of the best places to live in the Gaian Union of Nations, but when your compatriots include North Wales and its 'Jwtse Cymreig', that's a low bar to clear.