An Idea for a timeline

Solarius · Nov 15, 2009

In this possible timeline, Krishnadevaraya, King of The Vijayangara empire, lives until 1532. Would anyone be interested in such a timeline?

IchBinDieKaiser · Nov 15, 2009

I might if I had ever heard of anything you just said.

The Vulture · Nov 15, 2009

Don't see much Indian history here. Be a change of pace, if nothing else.

Thande · Nov 15, 2009

Rule 23 of AH.com: if you're going to posit a POD in an obscure area of history, make sure you lay your groundwork first. No point in exploring an ATL if no-one knows what the OTL is.

Ofaloaf · Nov 15, 2009

Thande said:
Rule 23 of AH.com: if you're going to posit a POD in an obscure area of history, make sure you lay your groundwork first. No point in exploring an ATL if no-one knows what the OTL is.

This. So many times over, this.

If you do expand on that idea, make sure you don't just jump in at the time of the POD, but instead backtrack a bit and explain the period setting and political circumstances of the time.

Thande · Nov 15, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
This. So many times over, this.

If you do expand on that idea, make sure you don't just jump in at the time of the POD, but instead backtrack a bit and explain the period setting and political circumstances of the time.

Yep. I do it myself a lot in LTTW when covering the East: not initially on purpose, I just had a tendency to write down what had led up to it just to get my research clear and straight in my head.

Ofaloaf · Nov 15, 2009

Thande said:
Yep. I do it myself a lot in LTTW when covering the East: not initially on purpose, I just had a tendency to write down what had led up to it just to get my research clear and straight in my head.

I've been trying to get in the habit of covering the backstory of whatever TL I'm working on at the time, but I'm always uncertain about what needs to be covered. Do I need to explain the background of every Dutch state in the United Provinces? Do people know where Gelderland is? If I'm writing about financial troubles in 1877, do I have to explain the Panic of 1873 to readers? Does anybody really care, or will they just roll with whatever I say?

It's a tricky business.

Thande · Nov 15, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
I've been trying to get in the habit of covering the backstory of whatever TL I'm working on at the time, but I'm always uncertain about what needs to be covered. Do I need to explain the background of every Dutch state in the United Provinces? Do people know where Gelderland is? If I'm writing about financial troubles in 1877, do I have to explain the Panic of 1873 to readers? Does anybody really care, or will they just roll with whatever I say?

It's a tricky business.

In the words of my boss, "you can never underestimate your audience".

And I have no idea about any of the things you referenced, no exaggeration.

maverick · Nov 15, 2009

Thande said:
In the words of my boss, "you can never underestimate your audience".

I disagree...viewers are morons.

And I have no idea about any of the things you referenced, no exaggeration.

Gelderland is a province in the Netherlands, in the east I believe (I specifically remember it from that Heath Ledger movie)

The Panic of 1873 was the start of the Long Depression in the United States, a result of the dumbassed monetary policies they followed after the Civil War. Very important and related to the Gold vs Silver fight in the USA.

The troubles to which he's referring have something to do with the Panic of 1873, I suppose.

Thande · Nov 15, 2009

maverick said:
Gelderland is a province in the Netherlands, in the east I believe (I specifically remember it from that Heath Ledger movie)

You know what? I was going to say exactly the same thing

maverick · Nov 15, 2009

Thande said:
You know what? I was going to say exactly the same thing

Of course you were...how could someone not reference a character that introduces himself as von Liechtenstein, of Gelderland...

The Kiat · Nov 15, 2009

They can fight the Mughals for dominance of India. Or just have a two-state India.

Ofaloaf · Nov 15, 2009

Thande said:
In the words of my boss, "you can never underestimate your audience".

maverick said:
I disagree...viewers are morons.

Isn't that what Thande said?

And I have no idea about any of the things you referenced, no exaggeration.

Gelderland is a province in the Netherlands, in the east I believe (I specifically remember it from that Heath Ledger movie)

The Panic of 1873 was the start of the Long Depression in the United States, a result of the dumbassed monetary policies they followed after the Civil War. Very important and related to the Gold vs Silver fight in the USA.

The troubles to which he's referring have something to do with the Panic of 1873, I suppose.

Maverick has the right of it. I am, of course, merely trying to inflate my ego and reference things in the two major TLs I've worked on here thus far.

maverick · Nov 15, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
Isn't that what Thande said?

Indeed it was...I just hate the audience even more

Dathi THorfinnsson · Nov 15, 2009

maverick said:
The Panic of 1873 was the start of the Long Depression in the United States, a result of the dumbassed monetary policies they followed after the Civil War. Very important and related to the Gold vs Silver fight in the USA.

Actually, it's more than that. It's partly a result of the Franco-Prussian war, where France paid Germany a whole heap of gold, which Germany largely sat on. This removed a large supply of the world's gold from circulation, and, as the world economy was expanding fast due to new inventions and investment, and as there were no major new gold discoveries at the time, the entire global economy had sand thrown in its gears due to lack of currency.

maverick · Nov 16, 2009

Dathi THorfinnsson said:
Actually, it's more than that. It's partly a result of the Franco-Prussian war, where France paid Germany a whole heap of gold, which Germany largely sat on. This removed a large supply of the world's gold from circulation, and, as the world economy was expanding fast due to new inventions and investment, and as there were no major new gold discoveries at the time, the entire global economy had sand thrown in its gears due to lack of currency.

Yeah, I know, I just didn't want to type that much, so I went with "it had something to do with the Gold and Silver thingy"

Wait a second, back to topic.

Are you writing that Indian TL or not, Sol?

mowque · Nov 16, 2009

Thande said:
Rule 23 of AH.com: if you're going to posit a POD in an obscure area of history, make sure you lay your groundwork first. No point in exploring an ATL if no-one knows what the OTL is.

Its is tricky though. How well does the average AH.commer know about the Portuguese revolt in 1910?

Ofaloaf · Nov 16, 2009

mowque said:
Its is tricky though. How well does the average AH.commer know about the Portuguese revolt in 1910?

The best rule of thumb is thus: If it isn't either of the World Wars, the Civil War, or the American Revolutionary War, they likely don't know all that much about it.

I wasn't even aware that there was a revolt in Portugal in 1910.

maverick · Nov 16, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
The best rule of thumb is thus: If it isn't either of the World Wars, the Civil War, or the American Revolutionary War, they likely don't know all that much about it.

I wasn't even aware that there was a revolt in Portugal in 1910.

It ended the Monarchy and established the Republic.

That's frankly as much as anybody needs to know unless the Timeline is specifically about Portuguese Politics...