What's the 16th? I thought the last amendment was the 15th (Direct Election of Senators)With the 17th Amendment
What's the 16th? I thought the last amendment was the 15th (Direct Election of Senators)With the 17th Amendment
Confederate Warlord Era beginsNathan Forrest II called upon all of the Confederacy to resist by force of arms and trigger a mass insurgency against occupying soldiers..."
Thank you! I’m quite proud of it. “Bound forStill the best title of a fictional book ever!
Well, I guess compared to both his infamous grandfather and rather famous WWII son, Bedford Forrest II is rather unknown.
This does make me wonder how many three/fours/fives are still around and kicking.
You do not, actually, have to hand it to LodgeAnd once again three cheers for Lodge
I mean this is Cabot Lodge we’re talking aboutInsufficiently draconian? What the hell else did he want? Completely stripping every confederate state of all industry forever? Forcing the Confederacy to trade exclusively with the US forever? Disallowing any form of reconstruction whatsoever? Bloody hell, I feel like if this were directed at any other country, it would be an unforgivable act.
And it’s clear that it’s partially thanks to Forrest Jr that the Confederacy takes about a decade to get their shit together. Hopefully his insurgency doesn’t cause too much bloodshed.
I can see the Boston Fruit Company using the chaos in the south to hire some ex-soldiers to serve as “peacekeepers” in a post-Centro country in Latin America.
DefinitelyOh yeah there's gonna be a massive diaspora. Novo Confederados in Brazil anyone? We could also see a large amount in Europe and South Africa I imagine.
d’oh yes the 16thWhat's the 16th? I thought the last amendment was the 15th (Direct Election of Senators)
No. Apartheid was wanted only by boers who are independent. Confederates would be a minority in Cape Colony.Would we get Apartheid sooner with an influx of racist immigrants from the Confederacy arriving in South Africa?
Considering his status as a general, I bet many people will answer his call to arms. Since Alabama is occupied, I wonder what place he's giving the speech?And it’s clear that it’s partially thanks to Forrest Jr that the Confederacy takes about a decade to get their shit together. Hopefully his insurgency doesn’t cause too much bloodshed.
Lack of Boers means no outright apartheid, but it's still a British settler state so the treatment of Natives without property isn't great.Speaking of South Africa, has anything changed with them over the years? Would we get Apartheid sooner with an influx of racist immigrants from the Confederacy arriving in South Africa?
Truman?I wonder what happened to a particular guy named Harry in the TL?
The question being, what will Joseph Jr. do? (It having to be him since JFK was born in May '17 and Robert and Ted both being younger than him)with his more famous infant son brought in attendance to a great many of the events of March 1917
And so our resident annoying Senate President Pro Tempore shows up at last.Eamon "Dev" de Valera
Root is basically this is fine meme!than the massive strikes that would erupt the United States over the next year,
Oh Lord, so many people here.David Walsh, John F. "Honey Fitz" Fitzgerald, and Joseph P. Kennedy Sr. (with his more famous infant son brought in attendance to a great many of the events of March 1917) with New York politicians like future Governor Al Smith or House Majority Whip John J. Fitzgerald and New Jersey's Frank Hague and a young Eamon "Dev" de Valera. It also augured, with its calls for labor solidarity and solidarity with the Irish people as violence returned to that island, was unequivocally an event that revealed the potency of organization, coordination, and mass action to not just Irish-Americans but all Americans..."
Interesting update. Few things I'm interested by:
The question being, what will Joseph Jr. do? (It having to be him since JFK was born in May '17 and Robert and Ted both being younger than him)
And so our resident annoying Senate President Pro Tempore shows up at last.
Anyone else hear the curb your enthusiasm song rn?"...the European public had, naturally, been almost entirely sympathetic to the United States and Argentina, and not just because of the large numbers of Italians, Irish, and Germans who had emigrated to those lands over the prior decades. News of the Confederacy's surrender in November had been met with widespread approval in most of Europe, even in countries that had been generally sympathetic to it like France, but the provisions of the Mount Vernon Treaty nonetheless surprised a great many Europeans, especially policymakers.
While the Confederacy's defeat meant that European opposition to slavery was borne out in full, the economic provisions of the treaty nonetheless was seen as unusually harsh. Even in cases like the Congress of Vienna that had fundamentally reshaped European borders and culled French ambitions on the continent, Mount Vernon laid out stipulations on internal Confederate matters and conduct that Europeans viewed as essentially making the Confederate States a vassal of Philadelphia. This built upon the sense amongst leaders in countries like France that the Great American War had been unusually barbaric, with atrocities so utterly beyond the pale. "We see in this final conclusion of the war," Paleologue declared to the Corps de legislatif as the United States Senate debated the terms of the treaty, "that in the Americas a new type of war has been waged, one that is not gentlemanly but rather barbaric, cruel, and arbitrary." German observers returning from the burned fields of Georgia and South Carolina remarked ruefully that it seemed like Americans fought the Confederates the way that Europeans fought rebellious colonial subjects and African Natives; implicit in this observation was the perception that there was a "proper" way for white Europeans to fight one another, and a way for them to fight their racial inferiors, and that the combatants of the Great American War had broken this gentleman's agreement over how war was meant to be conducted.
As the Central European War thus approached closer and closer, Europe contented itself with the impression that it remained the apex of world civilization in not only technology and culture but also in warfare, as Europeans would never maintain chattel slave societies, and Europeans would never conduct chemical warfare or level entire cities to starve populations to death. This comforting lie made it so that the documentation of the previously unknown horrors of modern industrial warfare in North America helped military leaders devise strategies to avoid the type of bloodshed that typified the Great American War but in a stroke of cruel irony made it likelier that political leaders would stumble into a war, out of the misguided belief that a cousin to that terrible conflict on European shores could never sink to that level of terror..."
- The Central European War
oh god they're just going full bore sticking their head into the sand"...the European public had, naturally, been almost entirely sympathetic to the United States and Argentina, and not just because of the large numbers of Italians, Irish, and Germans who had emigrated to those lands over the prior decades. News of the Confederacy's surrender in November had been met with widespread approval in most of Europe, even in countries that had been generally sympathetic to it like France, but the provisions of the Mount Vernon Treaty nonetheless surprised a great many Europeans, especially policymakers.
While the Confederacy's defeat meant that European opposition to slavery was borne out in full, the economic provisions of the treaty nonetheless was seen as unusually harsh. Even in cases like the Congress of Vienna that had fundamentally reshaped European borders and culled French ambitions on the continent, Mount Vernon laid out stipulations on internal Confederate matters and conduct that Europeans viewed as essentially making the Confederate States a vassal of Philadelphia. This built upon the sense amongst leaders in countries like France that the Great American War had been unusually barbaric, with atrocities so utterly beyond the pale. "We see in this final conclusion of the war," Paleologue declared to the Corps de legislatif as the United States Senate debated the terms of the treaty, "that in the Americas a new type of war has been waged, one that is not gentlemanly but rather barbaric, cruel, and arbitrary." German observers returning from the burned fields of Georgia and South Carolina remarked ruefully that it seemed like Americans fought the Confederates the way that Europeans fought rebellious colonial subjects and African Natives; implicit in this observation was the perception that there was a "proper" way for white Europeans to fight one another, and a way for them to fight their racial inferiors, and that the combatants of the Great American War had broken this gentleman's agreement over how war was meant to be conducted.
As the Central European War thus approached closer and closer, Europe contented itself with the impression that it remained the apex of world civilization in not only technology and culture but also in warfare, as Europeans would never maintain chattel slave societies, and Europeans would never conduct chemical warfare or level entire cities to starve populations to death. This comforting lie made it so that the documentation of the previously unknown horrors of modern industrial warfare in North America helped military leaders devise strategies to avoid the type of bloodshed that typified the Great American War but in a stroke of cruel irony made it likelier that political leaders would stumble into a war, out of the misguided belief that a cousin to that terrible conflict on European shores could never sink to that level of terror..."
- The Central European War
Interesting update. Few things I'm interested by:
The question being, what will Joseph Jr. do? (It having to be him since JFK was born in May '17 and Robert and Ted both being younger than him)
And so our resident annoying Senate President Pro Tempore shows up at last.
We’ll see more of the Kennedys, and Dev, before long…Root is basically this is fine meme!
Also President JPK jr?
“Europe would never start a massive industrial general war”Anyone else hear the curb your enthusiasm song rn?
The politicians, at least. We’ll get to some of the strategic calculations by European military leaders in a bitoh god they're just going full bore sticking their head into the sand
Great! Awesome work with both chapters btw man!The politicians, at least. We’ll get to some of the strategic calculations by European military leaders in a bit
Yeah, that guy. Honestly he's one of the biggest haters to become president.Truman?
(Hat tip to Dan for the idea behind this entry)
He's been President for fifteen minutes and the guy is already a complete disaster. I would say something like "get the popcorn, this is gonna be fun!" but then I remember that his gross incompetence is going to lead to lots of Americans dead, either because they are shot by Confederates or because they'll die of malnourishment and disease due to Mellon's deflationary policies.Curtain Jerker, you happy now?
I think this book title tells us a few things about what's coming. We know that Pershing becomes President in 1933 after three terms of Democrats.- Second Wave: The Postwar Progressive Revolution of 1917-31