The author has pointed out, that at this point, the oil reserves which were known about were much farther South and East in areas that would be more or less impossible to take from Texas and leave it as an independent country. (And the author has enjoyed getting rid of Turtledove tropes such as the State of Houston)


I *honestly* don't expect a significant "Penalty" from the US for the newly independent RoT to end the war. If the New country's constitution bans slavery and if they agree to exit the war (even if they give the Confederate Military a week to depart), my guess is that Philadelphia will sign off on it. They may not even have to declare war on Richmond, (Richmond may do that for them!)

I am OH SO waiting for the hysterics eminating from the Confederate White House and Congress when the Texas delegation walks out and the new Republic is declared :)

I wonder if their Congressional delegation will make an announcement IN Congress. That would be something!
 
I am OH SO waiting for the hysterics eminating from the Confederate White House and Congress when the Texas delegation walks out and the new Republic is declared :)

I wonder if their Congressional delegation will make an announcement IN Congress. That would be something!
The part I anticipate reading the most is how exactly the CS leadership will try to claim, with no sense of irony whatsoever, that no, actually, this is not just like 1860/61 and you don't actually have the right to secede when you feel your interests are being ignored. (And any mocking this gets from the Union.)
 
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I am OH SO waiting for the hysterics eminating from the Confederate White House and Congress when the Texas delegation walks out and the new Republic is declared :)

I wonder if their Congressional delegation will make an announcement IN Congress. That would be something!

Well, first they are probably having fits of when all the Mexican regiments/divisions stop fighting and just, begin leaving. ...

Then comes Texas...

Like, its a flood (AND OPEN QUESTION)at that point as to weather or not other states can just start to negotiate with the Union one Texas just up and leaves...
 
Confederate elections, 1915
"...November 2nd, when ballots would be cast not only for the Presidency but for the next Confederate Congress as well. One would have to struggle to think of a time in the history of this Republic, or any other, in which an electoral union went into its last week ahead of a critical election inundated with news that ranged from bad to utterly disastrous, and such news mattering less.

The biggest news of course was that Mexico had called for a cease-fire with the United States, particularly on her own soil, which left Mexican units scattered across the Midlands and Eastern Theaters confused and unsure of what exactly to do next. Some stayed in their trenches, news of their country's imminent exit from the war kept from them by Confederate telegraph agents, whilst others got into brawls with Confederate soldiers who demanded they continue to fight, and the majority simply rotated back off the front and waited in rear echelon support positions.

But more pertinent to the Confederate election and her domestic politics was the collapse of state authority in Tennessee in the days immediately preceding the elections. The six-week battle of Knoxville finally ended with the city and her crucial railroads nearly entirely destroyed, leaving the road to Chattanooga from the north wide open, just as Pershing's main body of forces broke through at Tullahoma. Dickman had been held at Corinth for close to three months, the size of the battlefield in northern Mississippi expanding to the point that General Longstreet at Vicksburg was almost pulled in, but Pershing's triumph at Tullahoma led to him thrusting southwards to Huntsville, directly into the rear supply lines of Lee's army and cutting them off, with tactical use of landships as his army arrived at the Tennessee River and seized the small but important supply route and now threatened the Chattanooga and Atlanta theater with a pincer, all while collapsing the Confederate position at Corinth in the west and forcing its abandonment. The war had, it seemed, now finally come to Alabama..."

- To the Knife: The Confederacy at War 1914-15

"...how exactly to count electoral votes somewhere like Kentucky or Tennessee was obviously more than just an academic question, especially since Underwood did considerably better in winning his home state of Alabama in addition to restive trans-Mississippian Texas and Arkansas as well as the boiling center of Tillmanite anger in South Carolina, where the state legislature awarded its votes to him to spite Coleman Blease and Tom Martin. Both had "retreated" state legislatures in exile, and due to the "enormous difficulty of open polling" in both of their home states, both state legislatures in absentia elected to simply award their states' electors to Vardaman, seeing as how both were strongly in favor of the National Alliance for Victory.

Though Underwood would have been unlikely to carry both these states on his own, the choice essentially tipped the election entirely in Vardaman's favor, as both "occupied" states had on their own enough electors to guarantee Vardaman's triumph. Said legislatures also held votes to select Congressmen in addition to Senators, which dramatically improved the numbers for Martin's ascendant coalition and forced Speaker Heflin to announce that he would continue to operate within the National Alliance, out of fear of his purging and the appointment of one of Martin's creatures.

Elsewhere in the Confederacy was no less openly corrupt. Ballot boxes were stuffed or stolen, and violence erupted across polling places, particularly in Mississippi. The Red Scarves were out in force on November 2nd in a major way and did not relent until it was clear that their man Vardaman had not only won but won fairly decisively, carrying eight states, some by genuinely surprisingly wide margins..."

- Making Sense of the Senseless: The Great American War at 100

"...though Underwood would become a serious opponent of the Vardaman regime in the year to come, beyond that there was only the surprise defeat of Coleman Blease by the state legislature Tillman still controlled for those opposed to the National Alliance to console themselves with. Tom Watson in Georgia was tossed out by the legislature to be replaced by Hoke Smith in tandem with the ferociously demagogic Thomas Hardwick; in Alabama, Underwood's good friend John Bankhead saw his career end at the hands of a legislature determined instead to appoint B.B. Comer, who as a governor had been a firm Tillmanite and reformer but in the Senate toed the newly Bourbon line. The House saw a wave of Red Scarf-backed figures emerge across the country, and Vardaman would have a potent alliance in both chambers of Congress to support him come February.

All this would have been crisis enough in the midst of war - but it was not until a few weeks later, when the radical Texas Legislature gathered to choose a new Senator rather than support the re-nomination of the corrupt, conservative and Martinite Charles Culberson, that the impacts of this newly autocratic regime consolidating in Richmond would really be felt..."

- The Bourbon Restoration: The Confederate States 1915-33


1915 Confederate elections

293 electoral votes; 147 to win

James K. Vardaman of Mississippi/George Patton of Virginia (National Alliance for Victory) - 190 EVs

Florida - 8
Georgia - 29
Kentucky - 30
Louisiana - 24
Mississippi - 20
North Carolina - 23
Tennessee - 29
Virginia - 27

Oscar Underwood of Alabama/Marion Butler of North Carolina (Democratic Opposition) - 103 EVs

Alabama - 22
Arkansas - 20
South Carolina - 15
Texas - 46
 
A few guesses on the next Senator from Texas:
US General Pershing
Socialist (and 1910/1912 Texas Gubernatorial Candidate) Reddin Andrews
Dallas Mayor (W. M. Holland
Dallas Mayor (1923-1927) Louis Blaylock
 
A few guesses on the next Senator from Texas:
US General Pershing
Socialist (and 1910/1912 Texas Gubernatorial Candidate) Reddin Andrews
Dallas Mayor (W. M. Holland
Dallas Mayor (1923-1927) Louis Blaylock
I think the answer is nobody. I will bet they'll be voting on secession.
 
The Red Scarves were out in force on November 2nd in a major way and did not relent until it was clear that their man Vardaman had not only won but won fairly decisively, carrying eight states, some by genuinely surprisingly wide margins..."
Wonder how any of these red scarf militia/friekorps could be useful in the army and are clearly being kept from doing their duty...

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A few guesses on the next Senator from Texas:
US General Pershing
Socialist (and 1910/1912 Texas Gubernatorial Candidate) Reddin Andrews
Dallas Mayor (W. M. Holland
Dallas Mayor (1923-1927) Louis Blaylock
Some interesting names I’d never seen before actually
Wonder how any of these red scarf militia/friekorps could be useful in the army and are clearly being kept from doing their duty...

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A very fair and reasonable question. Think of these guys as basically Ray Winstone and Jack White from “Cold Mountain.”
 
......Ray Winstone was in Cold Mountain...

Ok then. Been a long time since I watched that movie.
Indeed, he’s one of the Home Guard that harasses Nicole Kidman/murders basically everyone

That film, and it’s very bleak anti-Lost Cause take on the last year of the Civil War, is formative to my approach in writing CSA content for this TL
 
Writing a story where fucking Pitchfork Ben of all people is “bad but like not the worst?” is some shower-inducing stuff I’ll tell you that

Well, it looks like its going to end up much 'better' for ol Pitchfork Ben than it is for Vardaman, if that's any consolation. The Confederacy ha already known a nasty little tendency of assassinating those who aren't 'fully' for the war. And though this was more towards the beginning of the conflict, we also know that the Red Scarves have no problem lashing out even at wounded veterans (while not serving themselves) shows the sort of people we're dealing with her I'm kinda reminded about the monoloue from the Dark Knight "Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed you to your pooches? Hmm? And then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is." They'll turn on Vardaman the second he shows a moment of weakness/lucidity as to the real position of the CSA versus the Union in this War.

On a side note - I looked up Underwood and, especially, Butler and ... damn, they were decent people. Not exactly what you're used to from Southron politicians of this era!
 
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Well, it looks like its going to end up much 'better' for ol Pitchfork Ben than it is for Vardaman, if that's any consolation. The Confederacy ha already known a nasty little tendency of assassinating those who aren't 'fully' for the war. And though this was more towards the beginning of the conflict, we also know that the Red Scarves have no problem lashing out even at wounded veterans (while not serving themselves) shows the sort of people we're dealing with her I'm kinda reminded about the monoloue from the Dark Knight "Why don't we cut you up into little pieces and feed you to your pooches? Hmm? And then we'll see how loyal a hungry dog really is." They'll turn on Vardaman the second he shows a moment of weakness/lucidity as to the real position of the CSA versus the Union in this War.

On a side note - I looked up Underwood and, especially, Butler and ... damn, they were decent people. Not exactly what you're used to from Southron politicians of this era!
I've reached the point where I expect whoever actually signs the treaty for the Confederacy never returns to the country. I'm still trying to come up with an OTL comparison.
I know the author has considered Paraguay after the War of the Triple Alliance to be a model. The presidents after FS Lopez (killed in 1870 fighting the Brazilians after being wounded and offered the chance to surrender.) The next time that a president finished a four year term was Bernando Caballero who after taking over in 1880 from a president who died in office was also elected to a full term from 1882-1886.
 
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